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August 2007

Exchange with Alan McCornick about Noah Feldman's "Orthodox Paradox" (2007)

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1. Alan McCornick to R. Lamm

1. Alan McCornick to R. Lamm (Aug. 6, 2007)

1. Alan McCornick to R. Lamm (Aug. 6, 2007)

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Dear Prof. Feldman, my first – and last – impression after reading your extremely well-written New York Times Magazine essay (more properly – a manifesto) is one of sympathy for your predicament, respect for your honesty, and profound sadness at the community’s misfortune when one of our best and most well-known yeshiva day school graduates sees nothing wrong with “marrying out.” Worse: you wittingly or unwittingly exposed your coreligionists to opprobrium in arguably the world’s most public forum – even as you express admiration for the Jewish tradition, especially for Modern Orthodoxy. True, we no longer “sit shivah” for a relative who married out. But all of us experience poignant anguish when a brilliant and once fully committed son of our people, who earnestly believes he is not rejecting his upbringing, effectively does just that in justifying his transgression and holding us up to ridicule. And why so? Because you violated a major principle of Judaism and yet object when we, your fellow Jews, express our heartache in one of the only ways open to us. Quite simply, my dear Prof. Feldman, you want to have your cake and eat it too. Sorry, but that just can’t be done. Frankly, your resentment at the removal of your name and photo from the alumni list of your high school and other such petty discourtesies does not elicit much sympathy from me. Tantrums do not move me. I am moved by your resolve to continue your relationship to Judaism. And I value your suggestion that we reexamine our attitude to the social ostracism we have practiced heretofore. We certainly will not accept the violation of the law with equanimity, but we ought to rethink how we can express our displeasure in a manner that will not close the doors to teshuva – if indeed the couple wishes to take advantage of it. Apparently, you take the matter of intermarriage lightly – something on the line of eating non-glatt-kosher meat. If so, you are sorely mistaken. True, one can make a case that out-marria…
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Exchange about Noah Feldman's "Orthodox Paradox" (2007)

Dear Rabbi Lamm, The silver lining of clouds like those blown in by Feldman is that it provides an excuse for people to talk to each other who otherwise might not have one! I appreciated the conversation Friday morning, and of course even more appreciate the response to Feldman. I've decided at the moment not to blog further about it. By Wednesday last week, people were clamoring "enough already!" Unless there is a spike of interest based on the revelations of Thursday-Friday and the OU's call for Feldman's dismissal from the Times, it might be better to just move in.On the other hand, if you notice any criticism of that one line, please let me know, and I will somehow find some time while at Mammoth to write what I had planned, which would work something like this: "I cannot speak for Rabbi Lamm, but based on personal conversation in the past, what I am pretty confident he meant is..." That way, you can still use the original formulation for those who need it, while I can get a different nuance out there for the frum consumer. So if you see the need for it, just yell.Kol tuv,[redacted]
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